Minimal images

[sebastianconcept]

Would Telepharo make sense without Calypso? Can it become not depending on it?

I'm interested in using it on minimal images.

I've tried to load it in a Pharo10 minimal but got this:

Warning: Package TelePharo-Browser-Server depends on the following classes:
  ClyMessageBasedQuery
  ClyClassScript
  ClyCompositeQuery
  ClyClassChange
  ClyCompositeTestResultProperty
  ClySortSystemItemFunction
  ClyVariable
  ClyPackageChange
  ClyProperty
  ClyBrowserQueryCache
  ClyBrowserQueryUpdate
  ClyClassHierarchy
  ClyBrowserItem
  ClyScope
  ClyInheritedMethodGroup
  ClyItemGroup
  ClyMethodVisibilityLevel
  ClyMultipleClassRelationScope
  ClyQueryResultMetadata
  ClyQuery
  ClyQueryResult
  ClyBrowserQueryCursor
  ClyItemChildrenTag
  ClyItemFilter
  ClyConstantMethodQuery
  ClyMethodChange
  ClyEnvironmentChanged
  ClyCompositeScope
  ClySortFunction
  ClyStringPattern
  ClyMergedHierarchy
You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: 
  ClyBrowserItem>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyBrowserItem>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyBrowserQueryCache>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyBrowserQueryCache>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyBrowserQueryCursor>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyBrowserQueryUpdate>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyClassChange>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyClassHierarchy>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyClassScript>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyCompositeQuery>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyCompositeScope>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyCompositeTestResultProperty>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyConstantMethodQuery>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyEnvironmentChanged>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyInheritedMethodGroup>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyItemChildrenTag>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyItemFilter>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyItemGroup>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyItemGroup>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyMergedHierarchy>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyMessageBasedQuery>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyMethodChange>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyMethodVisibilityLevel>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyMultipleClassRelationScope>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyPackageChange>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyProperty>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyQuery>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyQuery>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyQueryResult>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyQueryResult>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyQueryResultMetadata>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyQueryResultMetadata>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyScope>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyScope>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyScope>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClySortFunction>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClySortSystemItemFunction>>#prepareValueTransferBy:
  ClyStringPattern>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy
  ClyVariable>>#seamlessDefaultTransferStrategy

[dionisiydk]

You can try to add dependency to Calypso project as MinimalEnvironment group (it is defined in BaselineOfCalypso).

Alternatively you can remove TelePharo-Browser-Server and TelePharo-Browser-Client from the baseline.
It will break the remote browser feature.

[sebastianconcept]

Thanks for that @dionisiydk .

For the record, the following steps seem to go well:

 ./pharo Pharo10minimal.image eval --save "Metacello new baseline: 'Calypso'; repository: 'github://pharo-ide/Calypso:dev/src'; load: #('MinimalEnvironment')"
 
./pharo Pharo10minimal.image eval --save "Metacello new baseline: 'TelePharo'; repository: 'github://pharo-ide/TelePharo'; load: 'Server'."

./pharo Pharo10minimal.image eval TlpRemoteUIManager registerOnPort: 40423

Although it finishes well and runs, the Pharo10minimal image has one warning while loading TelePharo:

Warning: Package *TelePharo-Core depends on the following classes:
  PharoCommonTools
You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: 
  PharoCommonTools>>#registerRemoteTool:as:
  PharoCommonTools>>#remoteToolNamed:

MCPackageLoader(Object)>>notify:
MCPackageLoader>>warnAboutDependencies

And on the other side of the setup, in a normal Pharo10 image, trying to load TelePharo client also has many issues to load. It has the complains about Calypso.
Also this:

Warning: Package TelePharo-Playground depends on the following classes:
  GTPlayground
You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: 
  TlpPlayground
  TlpPlayground>>#openFor:
  TlpPlayground>>#register
  TlpPlayground>>#codePresentationIn:
  TlpPlayground>>#defaultPlaygroundTitle
  TlpPlayground>>#remotePharo
  TlpPlayground>>#remotePharo:

How do you load TelePharo on Pharo10?

[dionisiydk]

I afraid TelePharo is not adopted to NewTools and still requires GT.
I don't think you can easy load GT version (and it's unclear what version).

I started to work on migration. But it's not published yet.

[sebastianconcept]

@dionisiydk any news on publishing that or decloupling? I'd love to test it for Pharo11 based backends

[dionisiydk]

maybe I will get chance to work on it in march/april but can't say for sure